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    Post  kitty_n Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:51 am

    breaking up with someone is so easy 4 some. pwd lng sbhin,
    "i dont love u na, break na ta"
    but with someone u really love...sobrang hirap

    der r certain circumstance kc na u need 2 break up wit
    him/her even if love mo tlga xa. so..

    panu nga ba?
    cry with tissues


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    Post  -LuVLi- Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:18 am

    hmm

    i think its not dat easy to break up wid sum1 u love pa....


    awe

    if makigbulag jud ka...

    i tx nlng taz ingna..
    "bsg last tx na nako ne...habang ginabasa ne nimo kuan...
    nagsakay nko ug lansa"

    "yaw ko pangitaa sa pilipinas ke naa ko sa bohol"


    wahhahahahhahahha

    lols


    lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  `POLLY Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:26 am

    kitty_n wrote:breaking up with someone is so easy 4 some. pwd lng sbhin,
    "i dont love u na, break na ta"
    but with someone u really love...sobrang hirap

    der r certain circumstance kc na u need 2 break up wit
    him/her even if love mo tlga xa. so..

    panu nga ba?

    i broke up with someone na labs jud nko..
    it's for his own good man pud.
    for some reason against sa ako iyang mom..
    [gi-daot jud ko atong girl na naay gusto sa akong ex... close man cla sa mom.]
    tpos he thinks his bestfriend is hitting on me..
    i made this really.. stupid .. thing...
    i broke up with him by telling him lies..
    it sucks nga eh... grrr...
    until now gni nagdumot jpon ko atong girl bah..
    hahahhaha!!

    uhmm.. so i guess, you have to be honest (no lies, no sh!t, no nonsense) sa knya kc you'll end up feeling guilty.
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    Post  joyce Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:48 am

    DAAAAH... UG NGANO MAKIPAG BREAK MAN DAW KO SKONG LOVE OI...

    BAHALA NA`G MGAKA B`LAT-B`LAT WLAY BULAGAY BAH!!!

    NYAHHAHAHHAHAHAH ngisi lol! ngisi lol! ngisi lol!

    JOKES lng oi... yaw kau dibdiba akong terminoloy.. nyahhaaha

    kuan diay... ANIH OH

    HOW TO BREAK UP WITH SOMEONE YOU TRULY LOVE...

    "I LOVE YOU, GOODBYE" lang katapat anah.. lols toinks

    or

    "I REALLY LOVE YOU, BREAK NAH TAH" toinks

    BWAHAHHHAHAHAH

    lol! ngisi lol! ngisi
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    Post  |{`angelkienne`}| Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:11 pm

    kitty_n wrote:breaking up with someone is so easy 4 some. pwd lng sbhin,
    "i dont love u na, break na ta"
    but with someone u really love...sobrang hirap

    der r certain circumstance kc na u need 2 break up wit
    him/her even if love mo tlga xa. so..

    panu nga ba?

    <=- pwede muhilak? nangluod haha... toinks in that case, it's more painful

    that the one i love is going to break up with me but i have no choice. i have nothing

    to do with it anymore. kay sa sa naman maiwan sa ere mas klaro yun na

    its been a painful game and fooling around. Mas maGGB yung love one mo.

    dila P * t a! Sakit.a nyang iiwan ka sa ere..............................

    Mas masakit pa talaga.... for the second time around.......................... Cool-1 Hilak-1 Sad hilak

    Hindi ka na nadala.............. hahay......................... Pahong
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    Post  Rift_Elemental Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:11 pm

    its a hard thing to do...especially if the situation calls for separation
    it will never be easy but you have to really move on or else get stranded in a very painful state...

    you broke up..not because you dont love that person right or you are giving up with him/her? you can still continue loving him/her. breaking up doesnt mean you love the person less ...nor staying together means you still love each other.

    so dont say good bye. stay side by side...being in a relationship is merely a state of mind for others...loving doesnt mean you have to be in a relationship...so what ug bulag na...eh sa mahal ko cya..mag magagawa ba sila?

    lol!
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    Post  sexy_lady Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:51 pm

    wow hmmmm interested ko sa topic hah...hehehe


    well for me?...base in my experience hmmmm

    i do really inlove the guy so much...and naging kami 4 8yrs

    pero nung dumating nayung point na im attempting 2 kill my self,,

    hahha dun na realize ko na he's not the ryt guyz for me

    itz so hard for me 2 break up but in my mind...

    i really nid 2 give up for my own good and he'z own happiness

    i dont want kc na maging selfish!!...hhaiz and until now

    im trying 2 move on parin heheheh!!!..pero ang hirap hahahha lol! lol!
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    Post  Babyselosa Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:19 pm

    hmm..nice topic ni bah!!

    We know that life is full of changes..
    One of the most emotional and hardest
    changes is realizing that you are ready to let go
    of relationship...Don't get into lots of blame-finding...
    There is always fault on both sides in a relationship that fails...
    Make sure you sit down face to face somewhere quiet...
    Don't offer reasons for your feelings...
    You don't have to justify your decision..
    if you give reasons for believing you're not
    suited for each other, you're inviting him to find
    ways to overcome those objections...
    I recommend you not say a lot about wanting to be
    just friends..The offer to substitute friendship
    for a dating relationship rarely works...

    haiz! kalagot mn gud ning gugma bah!!
    kung asa pd ka ma`inLOVE dra pd ka masakitan!! hilak
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    Post  joyce Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:14 pm

    Babyselosa wrote:hmm..nice topic ni bah!!

    We know that life is full of changes..
    One of the most emotional and hardest
    changes is realizing that you are ready to let go
    of relationship...Don't get into lots of blame-finding...
    There is always fault on both sides in a relationship that fails...
    Make sure you sit down face to face somewhere quiet...
    Don't offer reasons for your feelings...
    You don't have to justify your decision..
    if you give reasons for believing you're not
    suited for each other, you're inviting him to find
    ways to overcome those objections...
    I recommend you not say a lot about wanting to be
    just friends..The offer to substitute friendship
    for a dating relationship rarely works...

    haiz! kalagot mn gud ning gugma bah!!
    kung asa pd ka ma`inLOVE dra pd ka masakitan!! hilak

    daahh.. maoh jud.....


    anah jud nah....

    maong bahala nag masakitan....

    malamiaN pud!!!

    bwahahahaha

    lol! lol! lol!
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    Post  `POLLY Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:55 pm

    kahilakon man noon ko oink!
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    Post  sexy_lady Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:02 am

    hahhaha..............lol! lol! lol!


    kani na topic bah daghan jud kaau maka relate...ngisi


    makahilak na ang uban!!!....hilak
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    Post  candzy_angel Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 pm

    Ako maka relate ko ani, it's really hard to break up with someone you truly love... hekhek
    hirap mag move on, lalo na you both know that you still love each other... but wala kayong choice but to break up... and separate your own ways against your will. hilak-nasad
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    Post  sexy_lady Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:28 pm

    candzy_angel wrote:Ako maka relate ko ani, it's really hard to break up with someone you truly love... hekhek
    hirap mag move on, lalo na you both know that you still love each other... but wala kayong choice but to break up... and separate your own ways against your will. hilak-nasad



    nahhhhhhhhhhhh....ngisi


    agree jud ko ana candz....same jud tah hehhehe:lol!:

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    Post  joyce Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:49 am

    HMMM

    TAGAAN NKO XA CD S SONG WITH THIS LYRICS...

    "LETTING GO, IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SAY ILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU SO....."

    PERO KUAN PUD....

    PARA NAA PA`Y PAGLAUM GAMAY...

    APILAN NAH LNG NKO SONG NI KYLA...

    "SAYING GOODBYE, IS NEVER AN EASY THING....

    BUT I LOVE YOU SO, THATS WHY ILL SET YOU FREE....

    LOVE WILL LEAD YOU BACK....



    .....LOVE WILL LEAD YOU BACK... "

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    Post  MiNARi Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:36 am

    kahilakon ko oi...ahak...

    well even if muhilak ko doesnt make any sense...maybe an outburst of emotion og never makapawala sa pagkakalalaki ang muhilak in front of anyone...
    Hilak-1 Hilak-1 Hilak-1


    well...

    it happened 4 years ago...i had a very serious relationship yung tipong nag live in na me...we faced everything kay against man ang tanan...iya kambal, iya frends, even iya parents...what is bugtong kambal sila sa iya family tapos nasa abroad iya parents...buong tropa nya dili gusto sa akoa kay gidaot ko sa iya bestfrend na nanguyab daw ko sa iya bestfrend tong dili pa kami...imagine 3 years daw ko nanguyab sa iya bestfrend? wat is ang bestfrend nya nag act like a real loser so tanan kaila nila og kaila namo naiinganyo na mulaban sa bestfrend ni gf...og nahitabo na nobody likes us to be together...maimagine lang nako na having this sort of trials was indeed a test how i love that girl...and how she loves me...

    miabot ang point na girisk nako ang isa ka fading relationship in the instant for the sake of this girl...RN na sya ako student pa going to grad by a sem na lang...

    dili nako maimagine tong time na ginaistorya ko ni mama og ginahatag ang ako allowance...open kaayo me ni mama, shes the only one who understands me...i know how mama feels about the thing im doing the "LIVE IN THING" even dili nya gusto, pero sa mga relasyon never nagsay si mama na NO sa ako mga desisyon, i know everytime i left the haus i know mama is hurting, i know sobra ang kwarta na ginahatag ni mama sa akoa just to give me a peace of mind na dili me magkalisod ni gf sa paglive in pero wa kabalo si mama na ang iya ginahatag na money sa akoa is only a 1/8th lang sa kwarta ni gf...bigtime ang ako nakalive in...yung tipong kung mag allowance ko og 2,500/week ang iya allowance is 20,000/week...

    diha pa lang makita nimo ang big difference...

    things to consider:

    pobre ko datu sya, sakit kaau isipon na "KUNG NAA LANG UNTA KO KWARTA MAS MAHIBAW AN NIMO NA UNSA TKA KAMAHAL" this is the thing that bugs me almost everynite... ang ako allowance paggamiton namo kung mugawas murag 1 way lang...ulaw kaayo mugawas me kay mahitabo na sya lang always mugasto... sa inyo girls it may sound so okay or mapride lang me mga guys pero for real...sa mga boys sakit kaayo na na kamo usahay magbayad...

    end of the story:

    nagbulag me, sakit kaayo sa side nako kay if you only knew how much i love her siguro masabtan ninyo...ginaisip na lang nako na graduating ko, ginaisip na lang nako na 1 night stand lang ang tanan, ginaisip na lang nako na bakasyonista lang ko, ginaisip lang nako na nagka amnesia ko...the reasons why we break up.... HER PARENTS WENT HOME FROM STATES, THEY KNOW EVERYTHING FOR HER TWIN SISTER MAKE A KINDA FOUL STORY, HER PARENTS CONFRONTED MY GF AND GIVE HER OPTIONS "WOULD YOU CHOOSE YOUR BF OR US?"

    c gf is got a very hard time making out this decision...balo ko...nagpray pod sya na ako na lang unta...balo pod ko nalisuran sya...bogo na siguro kaayo ko if i let her decide to choose me...kinsa lang bah ko? naa pirmi ang self pity...pila ka months na ginaisip nako na "wow, when can i forget you?" "when would be the time that there would be no tears on my pillow?" "pila pa ka kaha na yosi ako mahurot just to break the silence" grabeh oi, i feel so bad with my decision to make the story end, ung tipong "ok lang sweetie na youll choose your parents, i love you but i know they will always be there for you, thanks for the happiest times of my life og naa ka being part of it" i just left with a smile and empty handed broken heart...

    Sad Hilak-1

    tipong lisod kaayo ilihok ang ako mga tiil just to walk away from the scene...it is indeed a peaceful break up but somehow the most hurting one...

    panagsa lang ko maglove pero mutatak jud sa ako isip ang tanan na akong gibuhat just to prove how i love my girlfriend...

    well...

    im here now...moved on...being so happy with my someone im dying to spend my life with...im not that strong but i just think what is good for me... please be always careful of your heart...

    and ako news sa ako ex, i think naminyo na sya, i think shes happy then...

    ana lang kasayon ang kinabuhi, never forget na you got a future pa to deal with...

    masakitan man ta sa gugma pero mas mag isip ta how to stand back from the failure...

    wat a confession... lol! ngisi hilak-nasad grouphug clap
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    Post  sexy_lady Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:05 pm

    MiNARi wrote:kahilakon ko oi...ahak...

    well even if muhilak ko doesnt make any sense...maybe an outburst of emotion og never makapawala sa pagkakalalaki ang muhilak in front of anyone...
    Hilak-1 Hilak-1 Hilak-1


    well...

    it happened 4 years ago...i had a very serious relationship yung tipong nag live in na me...we faced everything kay against man ang tanan...iya kambal, iya frends, even iya parents...what is bugtong kambal sila sa iya family tapos nasa abroad iya parents...buong tropa nya dili gusto sa akoa kay gidaot ko sa iya bestfrend na nanguyab daw ko sa iya bestfrend tong dili pa kami...imagine 3 years daw ko nanguyab sa iya bestfrend? wat is ang bestfrend nya nag act like a real loser so tanan kaila nila og kaila namo naiinganyo na mulaban sa bestfrend ni gf...og nahitabo na nobody likes us to be together...maimagine lang nako na having this sort of trials was indeed a test how i love that girl...and how she loves me...

    miabot ang point na girisk nako ang isa ka fading relationship in the instant for the sake of this girl...RN na sya ako student pa going to grad by a sem na lang...

    dili nako maimagine tong time na ginaistorya ko ni mama og ginahatag ang ako allowance...open kaayo me ni mama, shes the only one who understands me...i know how mama feels about the thing im doing the "LIVE IN THING" even dili nya gusto, pero sa mga relasyon never nagsay si mama na NO sa ako mga desisyon, i know everytime i left the haus i know mama is hurting, i know sobra ang kwarta na ginahatag ni mama sa akoa just to give me a peace of mind na dili me magkalisod ni gf sa paglive in pero wa kabalo si mama na ang iya ginahatag na money sa akoa is only a 1/8th lang sa kwarta ni gf...bigtime ang ako nakalive in...yung tipong kung mag allowance ko og 2,500/week ang iya allowance is 20,000/week...

    diha pa lang makita nimo ang big difference...

    things to consider:

    pobre ko datu sya, sakit kaau isipon na "KUNG NAA LANG UNTA KO KWARTA MAS MAHIBAW AN NIMO NA UNSA TKA KAMAHAL" this is the thing that bugs me almost everynite... ang ako allowance paggamiton namo kung mugawas murag 1 way lang...ulaw kaayo mugawas me kay mahitabo na sya lang always mugasto... sa inyo girls it may sound so okay or mapride lang me mga guys pero for real...sa mga boys sakit kaayo na na kamo usahay magbayad...

    end of the story:

    nagbulag me, sakit kaayo sa side nako kay if you only knew how much i love her siguro masabtan ninyo...ginaisip na lang nako na graduating ko, ginaisip na lang nako na 1 night stand lang ang tanan, ginaisip na lang nako na bakasyonista lang ko, ginaisip lang nako na nagka amnesia ko...the reasons why we break up.... HER PARENTS WENT HOME FROM STATES, THEY KNOW EVERYTHING FOR HER TWIN SISTER MAKE A KINDA FOUL STORY, HER PARENTS CONFRONTED MY GF AND GIVE HER OPTIONS "WOULD YOU CHOOSE YOUR BF OR US?"

    c gf is got a very hard time making out this decision...balo ko...nagpray pod sya na ako na lang unta...balo pod ko nalisuran sya...bogo na siguro kaayo ko if i let her decide to choose me...kinsa lang bah ko? naa pirmi ang self pity...pila ka months na ginaisip nako na "wow, when can i forget you?" "when would be the time that there would be no tears on my pillow?" "pila pa ka kaha na yosi ako mahurot just to break the silence" grabeh oi, i feel so bad with my decision to make the story end, ung tipong "ok lang sweetie na youll choose your parents, i love you but i know they will always be there for you, thanks for the happiest times of my life og naa ka being part of it" i just left with a smile and empty handed broken heart...

    Sad Hilak-1

    tipong lisod kaayo ilihok ang ako mga tiil just to walk away from the scene...it is indeed a peaceful break up but somehow the most hurting one...

    panagsa lang ko maglove pero mutatak jud sa ako isip ang tanan na akong gibuhat just to prove how i love my girlfriend...

    well...

    im here now...moved on...being so happy with my someone im dying to spend my life with...im not that strong but i just think what is good for me... please be always careful of your heart...

    and ako news sa ako ex, i think naminyo na sya, i think shes happy then...

    ana lang kasayon ang kinabuhi, never forget na you got a future pa to deal with...

    masakitan man ta sa gugma pero mas mag isip ta how to stand back from the failure...

    wat a confession... lol! ngisi hilak-nasad grouphug clap



    wow...hilak


    minari napaiyak moko sa story mo graveh....!!!!

    u know wat my natutunan ako pwamiz..Cool-1

    watta cool story az in...!!!Sad i remember da the tym

    na naging ganun din ako sa sarili ko...i feel im lost evrything

    and until now....palage ko parin marember evryday!!!hilak-nasad
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    Post  MiNARi Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:27 am

    sexy_lady wrote:
    MiNARi wrote:kahilakon ko oi...ahak...

    well even if muhilak ko doesnt make any sense...maybe an outburst of emotion og never makapawala sa pagkakalalaki ang muhilak in front of anyone...
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    well...

    it happened 4 years ago...i had a very serious relationship yung tipong nag live in na me...we faced everything kay against man ang tanan...iya kambal, iya frends, even iya parents...what is bugtong kambal sila sa iya family tapos nasa abroad iya parents...buong tropa nya dili gusto sa akoa kay gidaot ko sa iya bestfrend na nanguyab daw ko sa iya bestfrend tong dili pa kami...imagine 3 years daw ko nanguyab sa iya bestfrend? wat is ang bestfrend nya nag act like a real loser so tanan kaila nila og kaila namo naiinganyo na mulaban sa bestfrend ni gf...og nahitabo na nobody likes us to be together...maimagine lang nako na having this sort of trials was indeed a test how i love that girl...and how she loves me...

    miabot ang point na girisk nako ang isa ka fading relationship in the instant for the sake of this girl...RN na sya ako student pa going to grad by a sem na lang...

    dili nako maimagine tong time na ginaistorya ko ni mama og ginahatag ang ako allowance...open kaayo me ni mama, shes the only one who understands me...i know how mama feels about the thing im doing the "LIVE IN THING" even dili nya gusto, pero sa mga relasyon never nagsay si mama na NO sa ako mga desisyon, i know everytime i left the haus i know mama is hurting, i know sobra ang kwarta na ginahatag ni mama sa akoa just to give me a peace of mind na dili me magkalisod ni gf sa paglive in pero wa kabalo si mama na ang iya ginahatag na money sa akoa is only a 1/8th lang sa kwarta ni gf...bigtime ang ako nakalive in...yung tipong kung mag allowance ko og 2,500/week ang iya allowance is 20,000/week...

    diha pa lang makita nimo ang big difference...

    things to consider:

    pobre ko datu sya, sakit kaau isipon na "KUNG NAA LANG UNTA KO KWARTA MAS MAHIBAW AN NIMO NA UNSA TKA KAMAHAL" this is the thing that bugs me almost everynite... ang ako allowance paggamiton namo kung mugawas murag 1 way lang...ulaw kaayo mugawas me kay mahitabo na sya lang always mugasto... sa inyo girls it may sound so okay or mapride lang me mga guys pero for real...sa mga boys sakit kaayo na na kamo usahay magbayad...

    end of the story:

    nagbulag me, sakit kaayo sa side nako kay if you only knew how much i love her siguro masabtan ninyo...ginaisip na lang nako na graduating ko, ginaisip na lang nako na 1 night stand lang ang tanan, ginaisip na lang nako na bakasyonista lang ko, ginaisip lang nako na nagka amnesia ko...the reasons why we break up.... HER PARENTS WENT HOME FROM STATES, THEY KNOW EVERYTHING FOR HER TWIN SISTER MAKE A KINDA FOUL STORY, HER PARENTS CONFRONTED MY GF AND GIVE HER OPTIONS "WOULD YOU CHOOSE YOUR BF OR US?"

    c gf is got a very hard time making out this decision...balo ko...nagpray pod sya na ako na lang unta...balo pod ko nalisuran sya...bogo na siguro kaayo ko if i let her decide to choose me...kinsa lang bah ko? naa pirmi ang self pity...pila ka months na ginaisip nako na "wow, when can i forget you?" "when would be the time that there would be no tears on my pillow?" "pila pa ka kaha na yosi ako mahurot just to break the silence" grabeh oi, i feel so bad with my decision to make the story end, ung tipong "ok lang sweetie na youll choose your parents, i love you but i know they will always be there for you, thanks for the happiest times of my life og naa ka being part of it" i just left with a smile and empty handed broken heart...

    Sad Hilak-1

    tipong lisod kaayo ilihok ang ako mga tiil just to walk away from the scene...it is indeed a peaceful break up but somehow the most hurting one...

    panagsa lang ko maglove pero mutatak jud sa ako isip ang tanan na akong gibuhat just to prove how i love my girlfriend...

    well...

    im here now...moved on...being so happy with my someone im dying to spend my life with...im not that strong but i just think what is good for me... please be always careful of your heart...

    and ako news sa ako ex, i think naminyo na sya, i think shes happy then...

    ana lang kasayon ang kinabuhi, never forget na you got a future pa to deal with...

    masakitan man ta sa gugma pero mas mag isip ta how to stand back from the failure...

    wat a confession... lol! ngisi hilak-nasad grouphug clap



    wow...hilak


    minari napaiyak moko sa story mo graveh....!!!!

    u know wat my natutunan ako pwamiz..Cool-1

    watta cool story az in...!!!Sad i remember da the tym

    na naging ganun din ako sa sarili ko...i feel im lost evrything

    and until now....palage ko parin marember evryday!!!hilak-nasad


    ana jud ang life oi...sad na happy...

    basta ako now happy na ko...

    unta tuloy tuloy na ni...
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    Post  sexy_lady Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:40 am

    im happy for u too minari....... clap

    wish u all the luck...hehhehe ngisi
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    Post  YaNa~ Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:56 pm

    At first, it really hurts to do the act... labi na kung half of ur life siya na pirmi imong kauban... but, you should kay mas masakitan mong duha kung i-continue jpon ang relationship without love in it... hehe ngisi
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    Post  candzy_angel Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:04 am

    dapat maging honest ka sa tao... kng kailangan nimo xa pasakitan, pasakitan jud nimo xa... kaysa ikaw ang masakitan ug magsuffer... hilak-nasad
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    Post  kitty_n Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:47 pm

    candzy_angel wrote:dapat maging honest ka sa tao... kng kailangan nimo xa pasakitan, pasakitan jud nimo xa... kaysa ikaw ang masakitan ug magsuffer... hilak-nasad


    ay nah..agree jud ko
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    Post  YaNa~ Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:27 pm

    kitty_n wrote:
    candzy_angel wrote:dapat maging honest ka sa tao... kng kailangan nimo xa pasakitan, pasakitan jud nimo xa... kaysa ikaw ang masakitan ug magsuffer... hilak-nasad


    ay nah..agree jud ko

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    Post  Babyselosa Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:10 pm

    they say when u love something let it free
    and if it comes back you know it was meant to be..

    for starts stop lying to yourself..
    if you love someone you dont just break up with him!
    if you love him keep him and if you dont then let him go..
    dont ever tell somebody your dumping that you love him!
    thats the worst thing you could say coz it'll just screw his head up..
    think about what it is you really want and dont rush into any thing!
    talk to him first about where your relationship is going..
    i actually dont know what to do! hmp.. naglagot
    you have to think it first before you make some move
    in breaking UP! aguyy..
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    Post  YaNa~ Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:41 pm

    Honesty is the important element... ngisi
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    Post  candzy_angel Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:50 pm

    dapat jud honesty

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